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SHALLA CHATS with Jonathan
James
“Agenting Short-Story Collections”
by Shalla DeGuzman
First off, who’s Jonathan?
Jonathan James, M.A., Ph.D., literary agent with over 20 years experience
of editing, teaching, and publishing, of the James Literary Agency of Chicago,
Denver, and New York, seeks queries regarding new works of quality literary
fiction (no genres) and short-story collections from both established and
emerging authors. Since 1997 we've represented clients' work to commercial mainstream, academic,
and small presses both in the United States and internationally. Please do
not send any synopses, sample chapters, or partials until we've asked. Query
via e-mail only.
No reading fees, 15%D, 20%I, no editing or other pre-sale fees.
Recent Sales: Books due out in 2008:
How They Met, and other stories, David Levithan, Knopf It Was Like My Trying To Have a Tender-Hearted
Nature, Diane Williams, FC2. The Judicial Response to Police Killings
in Latin America, Daniel Brinks, Cambridge UP
I ’m negotiating other deals with several independent presses as well.
Shalla: Hello Jonathan, how are you? Thanks so much for joining
us.
Jonathan: Thanks for having me, Shalla. It’s a pleasure to be here.
Shalla: Please tell us about your most recent sales. Any short-story
collections among them?
Jonathan: Yes, I’ve actually placed a couple of collections over the
last year, one to a mainstream house, and one or two with independents.
Shalla: How would you define literary fiction as opposed
to genre fiction?
Jonathan: Literary fiction is the absence of genre. I’ve always felt
that genre is more a reflection of the writer than it is of the work. When
I hear aspiring writers ask questions about what genre their work falls into,
that makes me think they either haven’t been reading, haven’t
been reading enough, or haven’t been paying attention.
A literary novelist writes literary novels, whether they
take place in the present or a hundred years ago or an
imagined post-apocalyptic world. If a writer has adopted
the conventions
of
a genre, he
or
she is writing
in that genre, regardless of who the characters are or
where or when the story takes place.
I don’t like formulaic work. I don’t like work that deems itself
the next Harry Potter by aspiring writers who deem themselves the next Tolkien.
(I could live without both Potter and Tolkien, to be perfectly honest.)
Those
who query me about the next bestseller they imagine
they’ve written
or how much potential said manuscript has to become a blockbuster film, these
are people I don’t want to bother with, because they’re not writing
or thinking about literary fiction. (And if they claim the opposite, they
just don’t understand what literary fiction is.)
Shalla: How do you judge a short-story collection?
What kind of short-stories do you like?
Jonathan: I judge a collection like I would a novel,
I think. A novel-in-stories is a collection that
I (a) prefer to
read
and (b) have
easier time
selling to an editor. The fact that the collections
that are selling by first-timers
are, for the most part, interconnected stories, comes
as a disappointment to most new writers, but there
you go.
Fitzgerald said that if we were lucky, we had one
or two stories to tell and spent the rest of our
writing lives retelling those
stories, so it shouldn’t be such a bummer to these writers. (They just need
to be a little self-aware and see that having one or two fully developed
POV
characters makes them look a lot more skillful than eight or nine poorly
developed ones, with seven having only slight variations.)
I like literary stories. I don’t read sci-fi, or fantasy, or romance,
or detective, or anything formulaic. Formula bores me. Diasporic or humorous
stories are in vogue right now, but that doesn’t mean I’m as
drawn to them as everyone else is.
I’m still impressed by those stories that explore a component of postmodernism,
that are formally innovative, can either go horribly right or horribly wrong.
The best stories are the ones that leave a lasting impression, that are and
aren’t like everything else I’ve seen before, and that aren’t
so caught up in trying to sound smart and writerly that they lose sight of
what they’re out to accomplish in the first place.
Shalla: Do you look for authors through reading
literary journals, literary reviews and magazines?
If you
do, which ones?
Jonathan: To a certain extent, yeah. I think
it’s important to know
who is out there writing what, who’s publishing what, what’s
going on in the industry. Everyone needs to know this stuff. Not just
agents.
It never ceases to surprise me when I get
query letters that tell me the writer
has no knowledge of the current
trends. A lot of students of writing
only read
stories in The New
Yorker or The
Atlantic
Monthly
(which
has pretty
much entirely phased out its fiction)
or the well-known little
magazines (that’s the term that used to be used for literary journals) like Paris
Review or Granta or Ploughshares. Yeah, those places are publishing the best
of the best, etc., etc., but to me it’s akin to only going to see the
latest Will Ferrell comedy or Mission Impossible VII.
You have to read other less talked about
work in addition. The internet is a
good place for
a lot of really interesting,
groundbreaking fiction
that either just isn’t print friendly or maybe just doesn’t have
enough mass-market (and I mean that with a small m) appeal.
Shalla: Let’s say, you’re reading a terrific magazine and you
find a short fiction on there that is just amazing.
Would you: a.)
contact its author and see if,
together, you could create an attractive short-story collection to sell
to a publisher Or b.) contact its author and ask
for more
samples of work before you consider
signing with him/her Or c.) none of the above
Jonathan: If I read a story in a
magazine by a writer who has even
only a few
publishing credits, chances
are he or she already has a collection.
The majority of so-called first-time
novelists are actually getting
novel number two or
three published. Aspiring writers
don’t know this,
think that someone sat down at a computer and in six months out came this
amazing book that immediately got snapped up by Scribner’s and released
in hardcover a week later.
More likely what happened was
that the writer wrote a number
of short stories, some working
better than others, attempted
to pitch this
as a “collection,” found
that there was nothing linking the stories other than the fact that the same
writer wrote them, threw that in a drawer, began working on book one, spent
a year with that, sent it around, had no luck, threw that in a drawer, began
book two, halfway through revising began sending some of the stories from
the collection out, got one picked up, continued revising book two, got some
promising leads, but no takers, etc., etc., etc., until book three or four
finally gets published, but only after about 3 years and 5 or 6 serious (i.e.,
not just running spellcheck) overhaul revision drafts. Glamorous, isn’t
it?
Maybe, at that point, the writer
has realized that the best
way to sell the collection
is to heighten the
similarities and overlapping
between
the
stories
instead of trying
to squelch
it, and then
perhaps—and this
is on the assumption that the first published novel wasn’t a total
bomb—we can pitch it as a novel-in-stories. Maybe it gets picked up,
more likely by an enthusiastic independent press who really likes the writer’s
work than the first mainstream house, and so, there it is.
Shalla: Lastly, do you have
any tips for authors on
how to put together a good collection
of
short-stories? Any
books they should read?
Any workshops they should attend?
Jonathan: Focus on the
stories. Don’t think about your work as “preparing
a collection.” Write twenty good stories and see if the ten best could
be linked together as a sequence.
Now, granted, not every
book of short fiction
published today is
as I’ve described. There are many good collections of work that don’t
feature the same POV character and would be pretty hard to describe as a
novel (yet people still will try to, trust me). What you’ll find these
books are doing, though, is maybe following two POV characters through a
linear sequence of events, much like a novel would. Again, this raises the
question of what is the difference between a story collection and a novel.
And I’d say that’s as easy to answer as what’s the difference
between creative non-fiction and fiction that is heavily imbued with “autobiographical
elements,” or any literary fiction for that matter.
The answer I
like the best is that there is no difference and each book should be read
and dealt with on
its own terms. But of course we need context for everything,
so the questions will present themselves no matter what.
Books to read would
be every good collection
that could pass for
a novel (or every
good novel that could
pass for a collection
of stories).
Over
the last decade
we’ve seen Junot Diaz’s Drown, Matt Klam’s
Sam the Cat, Jami Attenberg’s Instant Love, Elizabeth Crane’s
When the Messenger is Hot, Thomas Beller’s Seduction Theory and, more
apropos of this discussion, The Sleep-Over Artist, Erika Krouse’s Come
Up and See Me Sometime, Karen Russell’s St. Lucy’s Home for Girls
Raised by Wolves, which I have to admit I have not yet read, but I wouldn’t
doubt that it deals with a lot of this stuff. These are all examples of collections
being published and read today, and so they’re worth studying on that
basis alone.
The collected tales
of Hawthorne and
Poe and Bret Harte
are important, no doubt,
but learning what
makes those tick
will almost
certainly work
against someone trying
to write
and
sell
in
today’s marketplace.
I don’t advocate attending workshops—they tend to focus on a
lot of the wrong things—but I do recommend anybody serious about learning
how to write to join a college-level writing workshop, either at a local
university or community college, or, in the absence of that, a writing group.
These are often advertised on the internet, at community centers, public
libraries, and sometimes on bookstore bulletin boards. Often they take place
at cafes or libraries or bookstores or in people’s living rooms.
Writing is not
a spectator sport.
Sitting and
listening to
theories about writing
or reading and
writing
in a vacuum ain’t going to do
much for you. You need to get out there and get feedback—honest feedback,
which, yes, at times, is going to be brutal, but, again, you’re there
to learn, not to be patted on the head and told how great you are and
what a genius you are.
Publishing isn’t a nice business. It isn’t about hand-holding.
If your mother likes your story, it’s not going to matter much unless
she’s guest editing Ploughshares that month. (And even then, it’s
probably not going to help you all that much, since chances are your
story already got rejected by the Emerson College undergrad intern who read
it
first.)
Reading, first
and foremost,
is how you
learn to
write. Reading, and
thinking
about what works
and why.
Learning what
makes beautiful
sentences
beautiful.
Building
an aesthetic.
And to do
that, one
must have an arsenal
of books,
ideas, sentences,
characters,
words, and the
rest behind
her.
Shalla: Thanks for being brutally honest with us Jon, we will certainly
be reading and learning and reading some more. By the way, before we go,
would you like to add any encouraging words for writers?
Jonathan: I think the easiest and the hardest thing to do for a writer
to do is to just ignore the so-called business of writing and just
focus on learning how to write. And learning
how to write is an on-going process. It's not easy, it's frustrating, and
there are no guarantees
of success--and I'm not just talking about publication--but if that
means nothing to you, if you're determined to push forth despite
the odds against you, chances are, you really were meant to write. And
if it's something you're meant to do, nothing else matters.
Shalla: Thanks
for sharing
your expertise,
Jonathan!
For more on Jonathan
James and
the
James Literary
Agency,
Inc. please email
him at:
jameslit11@hotmail.com
Shalla DeGuzman's short stories have appeared in Poetic Diversity, the Mosaic Literary Journal, the Mad Hatters Review; her articles in The Scriptorium and L.A. Freepress; her skits at the Stella Adler Theatre.
Shalla, a former writer and producer of a health and fitness cable show, is currently writing a new novel. She is President of The ShallaDeGuzman Writers Group; the Senior Editor of SHALLA Magazine where she interviews literary agents, publishers, editors, and authors; and the Publisher for SHALLA Publishing.
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